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Written by Jennifer McClure

From the Block to the Boardroom: Impact Architect Khalilah Olokunola Breaks Boundaries in HR

It’s not often that I come across a story as astonishing and inspiring as that of my guest on episode 86 of the Impact Makers podcast – Khalilah Olokunola. Khalilah (also known as KO) transformed a troubled past into a beacon of hope and empowerment, and her journey from the streets of Brooklyn to a prison cell, and eventually to the boardrooms of the corporate world, is a testament to her talent, as well as her unwavering resilience and determination.

Khalilah is an extraordinary human, HR executive, community leader, and now business owner – for the 6th time – and the story of her life to date, is amazing. In our conversation on the podcast, Khalilah takes us through her inspiring journey and the wisdom she gleaned along the way. She recounts how a simple letter from her father gave her the strength to persevere, and how her role as a Chief People Officer at a startup with a mission to unite gang rivals shaped her perspective on life. In her latest endeavor founding her own company — Re-Engineering HR — she helps companies thrive by prioritizing people, purpose, and profit.

We also discussed the impactful work that Khalilah does through Re-Engineering HR, where she helps leaders and organizations to understand how to be people-focused, purpose-driven, and profit-aligned, and also how to put strategies in place to avoid sinking the business ship by identifying and addressing internal icebergs before they take an organization down. She also introduces her Alphabet Audit tool, which measures people and practices, and her Serve Principle training.

Finally, you’ll hear about her upcoming book, set to release in 2024. This episode is filled with inspiration, resilience, and valuable insights that will leave you empowered and ready to create change!

Topics Discussed In Today’s Episode:

  • Resilience and determination can turn even the harshest experiences into opportunities for growth and impact.
  • HR isn’t just about managing people; it’s about transforming lives, building communities, and driving meaningful change.
  • Embracing educational opportunities, learning from industry veterans, and not being afraid to take on challenges are keys to growth in the HR field.
  • For companies to thrive, leaders must rely on the wisdom of their partners and employees, maintain transparency, and communicate effectively.
  • Effective HR practice involve being proactive, aligning decisions with values, and being purpose-driven.
  • The Power of ‘D.I.R.T.Y. HR’ – being divergent, intentional, responsible, trustworthy, and focused on your ‘why’.

LISTEN TO IMPACT MAKERS PODCAST – EPISODE 86

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People & Resources Mentioned In This episode:

Khalilah “KO” Olokunola – LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter

ReEngineeringHR website

Khalilah Olokunola personal website

The HR Social Hour Half Hour podcast episode 80: Jon & Wendy talk to Khalilah Olokunola

Dirty HR (D.I.R.T.Y.) | Khalilah “KO” Olokunola | DisruptHR Talks

Categories: Blog, Human Resources, Leadership, Podcast
Posted on August 4, 2023

Written by Jennifer McClure

Transformative HR Leadership: Embracing Disruption and Shaping the Future of Work

On episode 85 of the Impact Makers podcast, I’m sharing a conversation with you that I had recently with Shari Simpson – Senior Manager of Thought Leadership at Paylocity – on the HR Mixtape podcast, which she hosts.

I asked Shari if I could also share the conversation with the Impact Makers community, because I thought she asked some great questions about the challenges and opportunities that HR leaders are facing in a world where work and employee expectations have changed forever.

We discussed how technology and artificial intelligence impacts HR, as well as how HR can lead in the future of work in the areas of attracting and retaining talent, redefining employee engagement, and connecting employees with meaning and purpose in their work. We also touched on how HR leaders can build their influence, and make a significant impact in their organizations as well as the broader HR community.

I’ve linked to the episode of the HR Mixtape podcast where this conversation originally appeared below. I encourage you to connect with Shari, and to follow or subscribe to the HR Mixtape podcast so you can listen to more thought-provoking interviews, compliance tips, coffee chats, and the latest HR-related news.

Topics Discussed In Today’s Episode:

  • Current and future challenges confronting HR leaders.
  • The crucial role of HR in adopting technology impacting the workplace.
  • The influence of consumer experience on employee satisfaction and competitiveness in the labor market.
  • Defining employee engagement and strategies for positive impact.
  • The significance of a learner’s mindset for HR leaders and methods to gain beneficial insights.
  • Guidance for HR leaders on enhancing their influence and contributing to meaningful conversations in their profession, company, and industry.

LISTEN TO IMPACT MAKERS PODCAST – EPISODE 85

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People & Resources Mentioned In This Episode:

Shari Simpson – LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram

HR Mixtape Podcast

HR Mixtape Podcast — HR Evolved: Navigating Challenges and Embracing the Future with Jennifer McClure

PCTY Talks Podcast — Creating Your Personal HR Brand with Jennifer McClure

Re:Thinking with Adam Grant — ChatGPT did NOT title this podcast (w/ Allie Miller & Ethan Mollick)

Impact Makers Podcast — Defining Return on Workforce Investment in the Future of Work with Dr. Alexander Alonso

Redefining Work Podcast with Lars Schmidt

Punk Rock HR Podcast with Laurie Ruettimann

Digital HR Leaders Podcast with David Green

Kris Dunn – The HR Capitalist

Noah Warder – LinkedIn

Tracie Sponenberg – LinkedIn

Julie Turney – LinkedIn

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Categories: Blog, Employee Engagement, Future of Work, Human Resources, Podcast
Posted on July 27, 2023

Written by Jennifer McClure

Leading by Influence, Not Authority: 6 Steps to Elevate Your Leadership Game

If you’re a leader of people in your organization, I’ve got great news for you!

You’re in the best position possible to drive business growth, and to create positive and meaningful change in your organization, as well as in the lives of the people that you lead and serve.

In other words, your team needs you, and they need you to share your ideas and expertise in order to grow and successfully navigate the challenges that lie ahead.

However, it’s one thing to have ideas – because everybody has ideas – but the only way that your ideas will actually be heard, and ultimately implemented, is if you’ve done the necessary work ahead of time to build your influence.

3 Do’s and 3 Don’ts To Increase Your Influence

DO – Make decisions

Share your ideas and unique perspectives on situations encountered by your team members, and in your business. When appropriate, invite and consider ideas and opinions from others, but remember, as a leader, it’s important for you to be decisive.

It’s also important to remember that being decisive doesn’t necessarily mean that as the leader, you have to make all of the decisions. Sometimes, the best decision is to delegate, and sometimes the best decision is to provide a framework and permission where others are able to make decisions on their own. For example, this article in the MIT Sloan Management Review – Effective Leaders Decide About Deciding – shares a great framework for how leaders can help their teams make faster decisions.

DO – Develop your network and your Personal Brand

To be effective in organizations today, you must be able to influence people.

How do you develop influence?

One of the best ways to be seen as influential inside your organization is to be viewed as influential outside of it.

Build your reputation as someone who is well-connected, sought out by others, and who represents your profession/your company/your team well. Share your experience through mentoring and coaching others, volunteering with networking and professional groups, writing for industry and professional publications, and through regular posting on LinkedIn.

The most influential people are those that others want to be involved, because their experience, relationships, and ideas create impact.

DO – Always bring data

Do your homework and demonstrate your expertise by evaluating what’s happening in the global marketplace, within your industry, and among your competitors.

Use that information to inform decisions, and always make a connection between your ideas, proposals and recommendations to the bottom-line.

DON’T – Hide behind policies and laws

One of the quickest paths to being perceived as someone with little influence is to try to force compliance, or to put obstacles in someone’s path by quoting policies or laws – which is the corporate-speak equivalent of “I just don’t want you to do that.”

Help others to understand the intentions and implications of the rules, and work to identify solutions that incorporate them.

DON’T – Take conflict personally

If you’ve ever wished for a quote from The Godfather that you can apply to work, here it is:

It’s not personal, Sonny. It’s strictly business.

Conflict can be a good thing on the path to the best ideas and solutions – but only if it’s healthy. When healthy conflict is viewed as a benefit, it can open our eyes to new ideas, teach us to be better listeners, and lead to better solutions.

Increase your influence by ensuring that when conflict arises in the workplace, it’s healthy and positive. Listen when others criticize your ideas or disagree with your recommendations, ask thoughtful questions to better understand their point of view, and provide constructive feedback to others when you disagree or don’t understand.

DON’T – Wait to be told what to do

Have you ever found yourself saying, “Nobody asked me!” If so, that’s a problem – and it’s your problem, not theirs.

Be vigilant and seek to understand any challenges or opportunities that are facing the business, and proactively identify how you and your team can best help the organization to deliver upon strategic objectives.

If you want to be heard, don’t wait to take action.

Want To Increase Your Influence?

If you want to be the one providing leadership on your team’s path to success, focus on building relationships and influence now with key leaders in your organization, in your industry, and in your profession.

By increasing your influence, you’ll be able to get your ideas heard.


As a keynote speaker and leadership coach, Jennifer McClure helps leaders to embrace the future of work, and to develop the skills necessary to lead their organizations and the people on their teams to take bold actions that positively impact business results.

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Categories: Blog, Leadership
Posted on July 25, 2023

Written by Jennifer McClure

Poetry, Hip Hop, and HR: Creativity and Leading in the Future of Work With Arend Boersema

Have you ever thought of poetry as a tool for revolutionizing your thought process and sparking creativity? Well, my guest on episode 84 of the Impact Makers podcast has!

Arend Boersema, is a human resources leader, hip-hop enthusiast, spoken word poet and writer, and in our conversation, he shares how we can use art forms like poetry to disrupt our thinking, and to unlock creativity in the workplace.

Having lived in various countries and cultures around the world, Arend embraces his diverse identity as a global citizen, and utilizes his passions and experience to help leaders to tap into their creativity, and to think differently about work and life. He’s a firm believer that writing poetry can be a useful activity to explore self-expression and uncover new ideas.

During the pandemic, Arend found solace in writing and capturing his experiences through spoken word poetry, and this creative expression culminated in the publication of his book, “Poetry at the Heart of Business.”

As an HR and organizational development expert, Arend incorporates spoken word poetry, hip-hop, and haikus into training classes, retreats, and summits as tools to encourage creative thinking, and to foster a sense of community among participants.

This episode is a fascinating blend of art, creativity, and leadership that you wouldn’t want to miss. I hope that it sparks something in you, and inspires you to use poetry, hip hop lyrics, or some other form of art that you may be passionate about to engage your own creativity and self-expression in your leadership journey going forward.

Topics Discussed In Today’s Episode:

  • The importance of HR in creating a positive employee experience and fostering company culture.
  • How incorporating storytelling and spoken word poetry into your work can make concepts and feelings come to life in unique ways.
  • How embracing creativity and self-expression can enhance leadership skills and help us to connect with others on a deeper level.
  • Using poetry and art as tools for personal growth, self-reflection, and making sense of the world.

LISTEN TO IMPACT MAKERS PODCAST – EPISODE 84

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People & Resources Mentioned In This Episode:

Arend Boersema – Website, LinkedIn Profile

Book – Poetry at the Heart of Business : Spoken Word Poetry Exploring the Concept of Company Culture & Belonging by Arend Boersema

DisruptHR Philadelphia Talk – Do You Even Hear Yourself? (Leadership & Self-Reflection) | Arend Boersema

DisruptHR Philadelphia Talk – Turns Out, You Can Fix Stupid | Arend Boersema

Categories: Blog, Human Resources, Leadership, Podcast
Posted on July 21, 2023

Written by Jennifer McClure

The Power of Nonverbal Communication: Insights from a Counterintelligence Agent with Derik Clark

Impact Makers podcast episode 83 with Derik Clark

On episode 83 of the Impact Makers podcast, I’m chatting with Derik Clark, a human resources leader and recently retired Army counterintelligence agent who has a passion for teaching others about the power of nonverbal communication.

Derik is a US Army veteran with 22 years of service, who specialized in counterintelligence investigations and intelligence informant operations. Through those responsibilities he became a subject matter expert in body language assessments and high stakes interviewing in threatening environments, and he’s taught those skills to thousands of US soldiers in both the official Army counterintelligence school, as well as in live environment military operations.

Derik founded Bodysights body language training to help leaders and organizations to notice key nonverbals during interviews, client interactions, investigations, performance reviews, and negotiations.

In our discussion, we chat about the importance of reading and understanding body language, and the impact it can have in various contexts, as well as how understanding these concepts can help leaders to foster stronger relationships, make better-informed decisions, and navigate complex interpersonal dynamics more effectively.

Topics Discussed In Today’s Episode:

  • The power of nonverbal communication and its impact on human interactions.
  • The limitations of relying solely on body language for determining truthfulness and the importance of considering other factors.
  • How social distancing and the shift to more digital communication has impacted our ability to read body language and facial expressions, which helps us to perceive comfort levels and emotions.
  • Why demonstrating empathy is the key to deepening connection, and encouraging open and honest discussions.
  • The value of training to develop effective nonverbal observation skills and categorizing comfort levels.
  • The importance of considering diverse factors like neurodivergence, cultural differences, upbringing, and personal trauma when assessing body language, especially in job interviews or other stressful situations.
  • Enhancing hiring decisions, employee investigations, and communication skills through improved body language understanding.
  • The practical applications of nonverbal communication in business contexts.

LISTEN TO IMPACT MAKERS PODCAST – EPISODE 83

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People & Resources Mentioned In This episode:

Derik Clark – Website, LinkedIn

Categories: Blog, Effective Communication, Interviewing, Podcast
Posted on July 17, 2023

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